{"id":2421,"date":"2026-05-03T19:57:24","date_gmt":"2026-05-03T19:57:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/?page_id=2421"},"modified":"2026-05-19T06:55:31","modified_gmt":"2026-05-19T06:55:31","slug":"063-jean-christian-rindoni","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/063-jean-christian-rindoni\/","title":{"rendered":"TGC Podcast Episode 063 &#8211; Jean-Christian Rindoni"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"padding-top:0;padding-right:0;padding-bottom:0;padding-left:0;flex-basis:280px\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" data-attachment-id=\"1870\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/cover-art-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?fit=2560%2C2560&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2560,2560\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Cover-Art\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?fit=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Cover-Art.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1870\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=1536%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=2048%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=465%2C465&amp;ssl=1 465w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=500%2C500&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Grand Challengers Podcast Episode #63<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Profit is the Breath, Purpose is the Reason in Conscious Business and Circularity<\/h1>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Guest: Jean-Christian Rindoni<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>May 19th, 2026<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Overview<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Why does profit feel a lot like breathing \u2014 necessary to stay alive, but never the actual reason you&#8217;re here?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In Episode 63, entrepreneur Jean-Christian Rindoni argues that businesses, like human beings, need profit to live, but their purpose has to be more than just breathing. Recording from his new home base on Portugal&#8217;s Algarve coast (recently ranked among the world&#8217;s best seaside destinations), Jean-Christian shares the story behind Symbiosis Infinity Group, a consultancy he founded after spending more than two decades doing business in 30+ countries. After a year of looking inwards instead of outwards, he made a career pivot in his late forties to combine his international expertise with somatic breathwork practice and a model he calls Conscious Business Growth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We unpack his trademarked Symbiosis Infinity Loop: a four-stakeholder framework inspired by symbiotic ecosystems in nature, designed to move companies beyond ESG box-ticking into hands-on circular supply chains. The conversation goes deep on a working case study from Cameroon, where Jean-Christian and his partners are helping cocoa cooperatives turn discarded cocoa husks (roughly 70-75% of the plant&#8217;s weight) into nutrient sources, sustainable packaging materials, and biofuel feedstock, opening new revenue streams for farmers stuck with unsold beans amid a market crisis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Beyond the business, we explore the daily practices that keep Jean-Christian grounded: somatic breathwork, box breathing, Stoic philosophy, an unwavering morning routine that begins with making the bed, and the kind of stillness that lets imagination return. He shares why &#8220;innovation at source&#8221; gives companies a competitive edge no R&amp;D lab can replicate, why scaling a purpose-driven business sometimes means saying no to clients who only want to make money, and why, as he puts it, &#8220;your inner world dictates your outer world, not the opposite.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If you&#8217;re interested in conscious business, the circular economy, breathwork, or finding your calling at any age, this one is worth your full attention.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Episode Teaser<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"1440\" height=\"810\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/E0odN4yFxIM?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-AU&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A glimpse into Episode 63 with Jean-Christian Rindoni, founder of Symbiosis Infinity Group, recorded on Portugal&#8217;s Algarve coast. We talk profit as breath, purpose as the reason, and why the Symbiosis Infinity Loop reframes circular supply chains around the human being at the centre.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Biography<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-medium-font-size\"><strong>\u201c&#8230;It all starts with purpose, and when you lose that, you lose everything&#8230;\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:80%\">\n<p>Jean-Christian Rindoni is the founder of Symbiosis Infinity Group, an international consulting firm focused on Conscious Business Growth and circular supply-chain design. With more than two decades of international business experience spanning 30+ countries across Africa, Asia, the Middle East, Europe, and the Americas, Jean-Christian has built his career at the intersection of commerce, culture, and human relationships. The son of two entrepreneurs, his mother ran a small grocery store, his father a trading company in building materials, he holds a Master&#8217;s degree in International Business and Business Negotiation. He began his professional life as a diplomat in the cultural department of the French Embassy in Slovakia in the early 2000s before pivoting to entrepreneurship: first in China, where he founded his own trading and business-development consulting practice, and most recently from his new base on Portugal&#8217;s Algarve coast, where he founded Symbiosis Infinity Group as a vehicle for embedding circularity, symbiosis and human purpose into the way modern companies do business.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Through Symbiosis Infinity Group, Jean-Christian works with small-to-medium-sized companies that share a conscious-growth mindset, helping them move beyond ESG and CSR strategy decks into hands-on circular supply-chain models built around his trademarked &#8220;Symbiosis Infinity Loop&#8221; framework. His current portfolio includes a cocoa-husk circularity initiative with Cameroonian cooperatives, developed in partnership with a Cameroon-based sustainability consultancy. Beyond business, Jean-Christian is a certified somatic breathwork facilitator and a student of Stoic philosophy who weaves daily practices of breathwork, meditation, and physical training into his work. He believes that sustainable business must be anchored in personal alignment between mind, body, and purpose.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Jean-Christian_Rindoni_profilepic2.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"948\" height=\"948\" data-attachment-id=\"2463\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/063-jean-christian-rindoni\/jean-christian_rindoni_profilepic2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Jean-Christian_Rindoni_profilepic2.jpg?fit=948%2C948&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"948,948\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Jean-Christian_Rindoni_profilepic2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Jean-Christian_Rindoni_profilepic2.jpg?fit=948%2C948&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Jean-Christian_Rindoni_profilepic2.jpg?resize=948%2C948&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Jean-Christian Rindoni headshot, Founder of Symbiosis Infinity Group, conscious business consultant and certified somatic breathwork facilitator based on Portugal's Algarve coast\" class=\"wp-image-2463\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Jean-Christian_Rindoni_profilepic2.jpg?w=948&amp;ssl=1 948w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Jean-Christian_Rindoni_profilepic2.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Jean-Christian_Rindoni_profilepic2.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Jean-Christian_Rindoni_profilepic2.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Jean-Christian_Rindoni_profilepic2.jpg?resize=465%2C465&amp;ssl=1 465w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/Jean-Christian_Rindoni_profilepic2.jpg?resize=500%2C500&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 948px) 100vw, 948px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div id='buzzsprout-small-player-limit-5-artist-jean-christian-rindoni'><\/div><script type='text\/javascript' charset='utf-8' src='https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/2083595.js?artist=Jean-Christian+Rindoni&#038;container_id=buzzsprout-small-player-limit-5-artist-jean-christian-rindoni&#038;limit=5&#038;player=small'><\/script>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Quick Summary &amp; Highlights<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>&#8220;Profit is the breath of business, not its purpose.&#8221;<\/strong> Jean-Christian&#8217;s central metaphor reframes how leaders think about money, <a href=\"https:\/\/hbr.org\/2011\/01\/the-big-idea-creating-shared-value\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">conscious business<\/a>, and what companies are actually for.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>The Symbiosis Infinity Loop:<\/strong> a trademarked four-stakeholder model (suppliers, customers, communities, companies) inspired by <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Symbiosis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">symbiotic ecosystems in nature<\/a>, designed to move circularity beyond ESG-as-box-ticking into operational supply-chain redesign.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>A live cocoa-husk case study in Cameroon<\/strong>: turning the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Cocoa_bean\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">70\u201375% of the cocoa plant<\/a> that&#8217;s normally discarded into food-industry nutrients, sustainable packaging materials and biofuel feedstock, opening new revenue streams for farmers facing a price collapse.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Somatic breathwork as a daily nervous-system tool<\/strong>: including <a href=\"https:\/\/www.health.harvard.edu\/blog\/yoga-for-better-mental-health-202204072728\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">box breathing (4-4-4-4)<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/my.clevelandclinic.org\/health\/body\/22279-vagus-nerve\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">vagus-nerve regulation<\/a>, and Stoic-inspired perception practices (&#8220;it&#8217;s not what happens to you, it&#8217;s how you perceive it&#8221;).<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>A morning routine built on discipline<\/strong>: making the bed, hydration, breathwork and meditation before any phone, drawing explicitly on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Make-Your-Bed-Little-Things\/dp\/1455570249\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Admiral William H. McRaven&#8217;s &#8220;Make Your Bed&#8221; speech<\/a> and the principle that small structural acts compound into a structured life.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Resources Related to the Episode<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Conscious Business &amp; Circular Economy<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Symbiosis Infinity Group<\/strong> \u2014 Jean-Christian&#8217;s consultancy. <a href=\"https:\/\/sigconsulting.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">[Official Website]<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Porter, M.E. &amp; Kramer, M.R. (2011). <em>Creating Shared Value<\/em>. Harvard Business Review, 89(1\/2), pp. 62\u201377. <a href=\"https:\/\/hbr.org\/2011\/01\/the-big-idea-creating-shared-value\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">HBR Link<\/a> \u2014 the 2011 article Peter referenced as a precursor to this thinking.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Kalundborg Symbiosis (Denmark)<\/strong> \u2014 the world&#8217;s first and most famous industrial-symbiosis network, where waste from one company becomes feedstock for another. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.symbiosis.dk\/en\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Official Site<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Ellen MacArthur Foundation<\/strong> \u2014 leading authority on the circular economy. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ellenmacarthurfoundation.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Website<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Cocoa Industry &amp; Supply Chain<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Cameroon cocoa sector overview<\/strong> \u2014 the country is the world&#8217;s 5th-largest cocoa producer, and the European Forest Institute&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/efi.int\/partnerships\/cocoa\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sustainable Cocoa Programme<\/a> covers the same farmer-livelihood challenges Jean-Christian discusses.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Cocoa husk valorisation research<\/strong> \u2014 V\u00e1squez, Z.S. <em>et al.<\/em> (2019). <em>Biotechnological approaches for cocoa waste management: A review<\/em>. Waste Management, 90, pp. 72\u201383. <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1016\/j.wasman.2019.04.030\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">DOI<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Major industrial players in cocoa-husk research<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nestle.com\/sustainability\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Nestl\u00e9<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fujioilshd.com\/en\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Cargill<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.barry-callebaut.com\/en\/group\/sustainability\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Barry Callebaut<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Somatic Breathwork &amp; Nervous-System Science<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Box breathing (the 4-4-4-4 technique)<\/strong> discussed in the episode \u2014 explained in this <a href=\"https:\/\/www.health.harvard.edu\/blog\/yoga-for-better-mental-health-202204072728\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Harvard Health overview<\/a>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>The vagus nerve<\/strong> \u2014 Jean-Christian&#8217;s reference for understanding why breath regulates the nervous system. <a href=\"https:\/\/my.clevelandclinic.org\/health\/body\/22279-vagus-nerve\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Cleveland Clinic primer<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Somatic breathwork<\/strong> \u2014 overview of the practice and its trauma-release applications. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.healthline.com\/health\/breathwork\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Healthline guide<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Stoic Philosophy &amp; Personal Development<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Epictetus, <em>The Enchiridion \/ Discourses<\/em> \u2014 the source of the &#8220;it&#8217;s not what happens to you, it&#8217;s how you perceive it&#8221; principle Jean-Christian invokes. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Discourses-Selected-Writings-Penguin-Classics\/dp\/0140449469\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Amazon<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Daily Stoic<\/strong> \u2014 accessible modern entry point into Stoic practice. <a href=\"https:\/\/dailystoic.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Website<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>McRaven, William H. (2017). <em>Make Your Bed: Little Things That Can Change Your Life&#8230; And Maybe the World<\/em>. Grand Central Publishing. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Make-Your-Bed-Little-Things\/dp\/1455570249\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Amazon<\/a> \u2014 the source of the &#8220;if you want to change the world, start by making your bed&#8221; line.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Cultural &amp; Geographic References<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>The Algarve, Portugal<\/strong> \u2014 Jean-Christian&#8217;s current home base, recently ranked among the world&#8217;s best seaside destinations. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.visitalgarve.pt\/en\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Visit Algarve official site<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Symbiosis<\/strong> (biology) \u2014 for listeners new to the concept underpinning Jean-Christian&#8217;s loop. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.britannica.com\/science\/symbiosis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Britannica entry<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Episode Chapters<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<details class=\"wp-block-details is-layout-flow wp-block-details-is-layout-flow\"><summary>(Chapters are embedded in the episode for quick access, click this to expand and view all chapters and time stamps)<\/summary>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>0:00 Intro<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>1:59 Guest Intro, The Algarve &amp; Breathwork<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>13:38 Jean-Christian&#8217;s early career<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>19:56 Symbiosis Inifnity Group<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>21:59 What is Conscious Business Growth?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>23:29 The supply chain of cocoa<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>33:28 The symbiosis infinity loop concept<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>40:21 Challenges for circularity and symbiosis<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>47:17 Learning and walking with the big players<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>51:57 A precautionary tale about scaling<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>1:00:16 Upcoming exciting projects for Jean-CHristian<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>1:03:44 Q&amp;A Start<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>1:04:03 What does innovation mean to you?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>1:08:11 Key moment, book, person<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>1:13:08 Time Management<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>1:20:32 Favourite childhood memory<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>1:24:59 What would you most like to be remembered for?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>1:26:41 Where can people find you?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>1:28:30 Final Message<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>1:29:46 Outro<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/details>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Connect with Jean-Christian Rindoni<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jcrindoni\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>LinkedIn<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/sigconsulting.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Symbiosis Infinity Group (SIG Consulting)<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Related Episodes<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table><tbody><tr><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" data-attachment-id=\"1766\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/041-don-weatherbee\/don-weatherbee-profilepic\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Don-Weatherbee-Profilepic.png?fit=1732%2C1732&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1732,1732\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Don Weatherbee Profilepic\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Don-Weatherbee-Profilepic.png?fit=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-1766\" style=\"width: 100px;\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Don-Weatherbee-Profilepic.png?resize=100%2C100&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Don-Weatherbee-Profilepic.png?w=1732&amp;ssl=1 1732w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Don-Weatherbee-Profilepic.png?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Don-Weatherbee-Profilepic.png?resize=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Don-Weatherbee-Profilepic.png?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Don-Weatherbee-Profilepic.png?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Don-Weatherbee-Profilepic.png?resize=1536%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Don-Weatherbee-Profilepic.png?resize=465%2C465&amp;ssl=1 465w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Don-Weatherbee-Profilepic.png?resize=500%2C500&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\" \/><\/td><td><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/041-don-weatherbee\/\" type=\"page\" id=\"1664\">Episode #41 &#8211; Don Weatherbee<\/a><\/strong><br><strong>&#8220;Catalyzing&#8221; change beyond the mine &#8211; scaling up metals regeneration to enable the future circular economy<\/strong><br><em>(Related Topics: resources recycling, circular economy, supply chains)<\/em><\/td><\/tr><tr><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" data-attachment-id=\"1970\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/047-wei-shan-chen\/wei-shan_chen_profilepic\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Wei-Shan_Chen_Profilepic.jpg?fit=2240%2C2240&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2240,2240\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Wei-Shan_Chen_Profilepic\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Wei-Shan_Chen_Profilepic.jpg?fit=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-1970\" style=\"width: 100px;\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Wei-Shan_Chen_Profilepic.jpg?resize=100%2C100&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Wei-Shan_Chen_Profilepic.jpg?w=2240&amp;ssl=1 2240w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Wei-Shan_Chen_Profilepic.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Wei-Shan_Chen_Profilepic.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Wei-Shan_Chen_Profilepic.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Wei-Shan_Chen_Profilepic.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Wei-Shan_Chen_Profilepic.jpg?resize=1536%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Wei-Shan_Chen_Profilepic.jpg?resize=2048%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Wei-Shan_Chen_Profilepic.jpg?resize=465%2C465&amp;ssl=1 465w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Wei-Shan_Chen_Profilepic.jpg?resize=500%2C500&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\" \/><\/td><td><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/047-wei-shan-chen\/\" type=\"page\" id=\"1969\">Episode #47 &#8211; Wei-Shan Chen<\/a><\/strong><br><strong>Valuing food waste and greening &#8211; the experience in delivering technology and tools to close the carbon and water cycles<\/strong><br><em>(Related Topics: circular economy)<\/em><\/td><\/tr><tr><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" data-attachment-id=\"2316\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/059-galina-yordanova\/tgcpodcast_e060_galina_yordanova_profilepic\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e060_galina_yordanova_profilepic.jpg?fit=600%2C600&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"600,600\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"tgcpodcast_e060_galina_yordanova_profilepic\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e060_galina_yordanova_profilepic.jpg?fit=600%2C600&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-2316\" style=\"width: 100px;\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e060_galina_yordanova_profilepic.jpg?resize=100%2C100&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Galina Yordanova headshot \u2014 Founder and Chief Awakening Officer of Awakenomy, human consciousness and organizational development expert based in Switzerland\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e060_galina_yordanova_profilepic.jpg?w=600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e060_galina_yordanova_profilepic.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e060_galina_yordanova_profilepic.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e060_galina_yordanova_profilepic.jpg?resize=465%2C465&amp;ssl=1 465w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e060_galina_yordanova_profilepic.jpg?resize=500%2C500&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\" \/><\/td><td><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/059-galina-yordanova\/\" type=\"page\" id=\"2315\">Episode #59 &#8211; Galina Yordanova<\/a><\/strong><br><strong>Human Consciousness is the most valuable business asset in the Age of AI<\/strong><br><em>(Related Topics: conscious growth, personal awakening, business)<\/em><\/td><\/tr><tr><td class=\"has-text-align-center\" data-align=\"center\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" data-attachment-id=\"2322\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/061-richard-tyson\/tgcpodcast_e061_richard_tyson_profilepic\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e061_richard_tyson_profilepic-scaled.jpg?fit=2560%2C2560&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2560,2560\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS M50&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1483241987&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;35&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.002&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"tgcpodcast_e061_richard_tyson_profilepic\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e061_richard_tyson_profilepic-scaled.jpg?fit=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-2322\" style=\"width: 100px;\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e061_richard_tyson_profilepic-scaled.jpg?resize=100%2C100&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Richard C. Tyson headshot \u2013 Founder of Eco Systems, environmental consultant and circular economy specialist based in Bangkok, Thailand\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e061_richard_tyson_profilepic-scaled.jpg?w=2560&amp;ssl=1 2560w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e061_richard_tyson_profilepic-scaled.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e061_richard_tyson_profilepic-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e061_richard_tyson_profilepic-scaled.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e061_richard_tyson_profilepic-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e061_richard_tyson_profilepic-scaled.jpg?resize=1536%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e061_richard_tyson_profilepic-scaled.jpg?resize=2048%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e061_richard_tyson_profilepic-scaled.jpg?resize=465%2C465&amp;ssl=1 465w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/tgcpodcast_e061_richard_tyson_profilepic-scaled.jpg?resize=500%2C500&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\" \/><\/td><td><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/061-richard-tyson\/\" type=\"page\" id=\"2321\">Episode #61 &#8211; Richard C. Tyson<\/a><\/strong><br>Waste is &#8220;resources in the wrong place&#8221; &#8211; from small islands to circular economy and certifications<br><em>(Related Topics: circularity, sustainable business)<\/em><\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Credits<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Hosted by Peter Marcus Bach, follow me on: <strong>X:<\/strong> @petermbach, <strong>Instagram:<\/strong> @petermbach87 or subscribe to my channel on <strong>YouTube: <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/c\/PeterMarcusBach\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">www.youtube.com\/c\/PeterMarcusBach\/<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Intro\/Outro Song:<\/strong> \u2018Starsky\u2019 by Alex Keren (Check out more of his tunes over on Spotify:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/balloon-planet\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/artist\/5vZ3lENfDLjkln8scBJ8mW<\/a>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Grand Challengers Podcast Episode #63 Profit is the Breath, Purpose is the Reason in Conscious Business and Circularity Guest: Jean-Christian Rindoni May 19th, 2026 Overview Why does profit feel a lot like breathing \u2014 necessary to stay alive, but never the actual reason you&#8217;re here? 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