{"id":688,"date":"2023-02-19T12:15:49","date_gmt":"2023-02-19T12:15:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/?page_id=688"},"modified":"2023-10-28T11:35:55","modified_gmt":"2023-10-28T11:35:55","slug":"005-peter-vanrolleghem","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/005-peter-vanrolleghem\/","title":{"rendered":"TGC Podcast Episode 005"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"padding-top:0;padding-right:0;padding-bottom:0;padding-left:0;flex-basis:280px\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" data-attachment-id=\"550\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/001-joao-paulo-leitao\/cover-art\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?fit=2560%2C2560&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2560,2560\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Cover-Art\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?fit=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?fit=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-550\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=1536%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=2048%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=465%2C465&amp;ssl=1 465w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=500%2C500&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Grand Challengers Podcast Episode #5<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Like wastewater for chocolate &#8211; control, serendipity and digital twins<\/h1>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Guest: Peter A. Vanrolleghem<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>February 28th, 2023<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Introduction<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-medium-font-size\"><strong>\u201cThere\u2019s something passing by, but always be open to seize it\u2026\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:80%\">\n<p>In the face of an unpredictable future, we are all called upon each and every day to think of out-of-the box ways to tackle challenges to our environment, wellbeing or where to get raw materials for your chocolate and spaghetti enterprise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My guest today is Professor Peter A. Vanrolleghem, a bio- and wastewater engineer from Universit\u00e9 Laval in Qu\u00e9bec City, Canada. Peter is widely known in the urban water and modelling fields and has a lifelong passion for understanding how we can engineer and control the microscopic world for the benefit of the environment and society.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Today\u2019s wide-ranging show takes us from chocolate and spaghetti deep into the world of urban wastewater where major shifts towards resource recovery and digitalization are taking place. We also delve into Peter\u2019s journey and his life-changing encounters with serendipity and mentorship in his career to date.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/peterv12.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"438\" height=\"438\" data-attachment-id=\"710\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/005-peter-vanrolleghem\/peterv12\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/peterv12.jpg?fit=438%2C438&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"438,438\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"peterv12\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/peterv12.jpg?fit=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/peterv12.jpg?fit=438%2C438&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/peterv12.jpg?resize=438%2C438&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-710\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/peterv12.jpg?w=438&amp;ssl=1 438w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/peterv12.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/peterv12.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 438px) 100vw, 438px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Biography<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Professor Peter A. Vanrolleghem is a bio-engineer from Universit\u00e9 Laval in Qu\u00e9bec City, Canada. He obtained his PhD in Applied Biological Sciences &#8211; Environmental Technology in 1994 from Ghent University (Belgium) on monitoring, modelling and control of activated sludge wastewater treatment processes with special emphasis on model calibration and experimental design. He is well known for initiating the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biomath.ugent.be\/\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.biomath.ugent.be\/\" target=\"_blank\">BIOMATH<\/a> group at Ghent before his journey to Canada where he has been leading his group, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/modeleau.fsg.ulaval.ca\/en\/about\/home\/\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/modeleau.fsg.ulaval.ca\/en\/about\/home\/\" target=\"_blank\">modelEAU<\/a>, in Qu\u00e9bec for almost two decades. His research portfolio has since expanded to encompass many topics in urban wastewater systems, tackling challenges such as nutrient (removal and recovery), fate of micropollutants and pathogens, and emissions of greenhouse gases, by developing and using mathematical models, automated monitoring stations, process control and in-house pilot- and full-scale experimental work<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Peter is an eminent figure in the urban water sector and has been instrumental in bringing about significant shifts in our perception of wastewater management, ushering in a new paradigm of resource recovery, better collection and management of data and supporting the feasibility of digitalization in the field. He has published over 450 peer-reviewed papers and has supervised numerous PhD and Master students and post-docs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He maintains a strong international network of collaborators. Since 2006, he holds the Canada Research Chair on Water Quality Modeling and has been very active in numerous organisations including the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/iwa-network.org\/\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/iwa-network.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">International Water Association<\/a> (IWA Fellow and member of IWA\u2019s Board of Directors), the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wef.org\/\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.wef.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Water Environment Federation<\/a> (WEF Fellow) as chairman of MEGA (Modelling Expert Group of the Americas), <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/reseau-environnement.com\/\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/reseau-environnement.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">R\u00e9seau Environnement<\/a> and the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cawq.ca\/en\/index.html\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.cawq.ca\/en\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">Canadian Association on Water Quality<\/a> (CAWQ).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div id='buzzsprout-small-player-artist-peter-a-vanrolleghem'><\/div><script type='text\/javascript' charset='utf-8' src='https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/2083595.js?artist=Peter+A.+Vanrolleghem&#038;container_id=buzzsprout-small-player-artist-peter-a-vanrolleghem&#038;player=small'><\/script>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Resources Related to the Episode<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>(<em>Disclosure: Links on this page to &#8220;View on Amazon&#8221; are Affiliate links. This means that, at zero cost to you, I will earn an affiliate commission if you click through the link and finalize a purchase.<\/em>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>We had a chance to sit down and record this show during Peter&#8217;s sabbatical visit to Zurich, Switzerland<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>\u2018Respiropeter\u2019<\/strong> &#8211; his early nickname derived from Respirometry [<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Respirometry\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">More info<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Peter\u2019s PhD supervisor and early mentor <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cmet.ugent.be\/users\/prof-dr-ir-willy-verstraete\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Prof. dr. ir. Willy Vestraete<\/strong><\/a> from Ghent University<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>BIOMATH Group in Ghent University [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biomath.ugent.be\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Group webpage<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Universit\u00e9 Laval to Laval City &#8211; actually quite far apart [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/maps\/dir\/Laval,+Quebec,+Canada\/Laval+University,+2325+Rue+de+l'Universit%C3%A9,+Qu%C3%A9bec+City,+Quebec+G1V+0A6,+Canada\/@46.180958,-73.0533604,9z\/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x4cc92107b4dfda6b:0x2eb4b26fe333c419!2m2!1d-73.712409!2d45.6066487!1m5!1m1!1s0x4cb896c469ff32f9:0x15feb853bd2f8247!2m2!1d-71.2747424!2d46.7817463!3e0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Google Maps<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Peter\u2019s group in Qu\u00e9bec City &#8211; <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/modeleau.fsg.ulaval.ca\/en\/about\/home\/\" target=\"_blank\">modelEAU Homepage<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Water Resource Recovery Facility<\/strong> (WRRF): details on the change in paradigm\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Recent book on concepts in water resource recovery: Pikaar, I., Guest, J. and Ganigu\u00e9, R., 2022.&nbsp;<em>Resource Recovery from Water: Principles and Application<\/em>. IWA Publishing. [<a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.2166\/9781780409566\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Open Access Link<\/strong><\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Regmi, P., Stewart, H., Amerlinck, Y., Arnell, M., Garc\u00eda, P.J., Johnson, B., Maere, T., Mileti\u0107, I., Miller, M., Rieger, L., Samstag, R., Santoro, D., Schraa, O., Snowling, S., Takacs, I., Torfs, E., van Loosdrecht, M. C. M., Vanrolleghem, P. A., Villez, K., Volcke, E. I. P., Wijers, S., Grau, P., Jimenez, J. and Rosso, D., 2019. The future of WRRF modelling\u2013outlook and challenges.&nbsp;<em>Water Science and Technology<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>79<\/em>(1), pp.3-14. [<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.2166\/wst.2018.498\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Open Access Link<\/a><\/strong>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>European Commission\u2019s initiative on circular cities and regions [<a href=\"https:\/\/research-and-innovation.ec.europa.eu\/research-area\/environment\/circular-economy\/circular-cities-and-regions-initiative_en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Link<\/strong><\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>French term: <strong>StaRRE &#8211; Stations de r\u00e9cup\u00e9ration des ressources de l&#8217;eau<\/strong><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Vanrolleghem, P., 2015. Les StaRRE de type conventionnel.&nbsp;<em>Vecteur Environnement<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>48<\/em>(1), p.56. [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.proquest.com\/docview\/1646981363?pq-origsite=gscholar&amp;fromopenview=true\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link in French<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The <strong>Terminology<\/strong> debate\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Carstensen, J., Vanrolleghem, P., Rauch, W. and Reichert, P., 1997. Terminology and methodology in modelling for water quality management\u2014a discussion starter.&nbsp;<em>Water Science and Technology<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>36<\/em>(5), pp.157-168. [<a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1016\/S0273-1223(97)00470-8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>A famous paper on nature-based solutions discussing terminology: Fletcher, T.D., Shuster, W., Hunt, W.F., Ashley, R., Butler, D., Arthur, S., Trowsdale, S., Barraud, S., Semadeni-Davies, A., Bertrand-Krajewski, J.L. and Mikkelsen, P.S., 2015. SUDS, LID, BMPs, WSUD and more\u2013The evolution and application of terminology surrounding urban drainage.&nbsp;<em>Urban water journal<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>12<\/em>(7), pp.525-542. [<a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1080\/1573062X.2014.916314\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Open Access Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Peter\u2019s Book on Dynamic Modelling and its important Glossary: Dochain, D. and Vanrolleghem, P.A., 2001.\u00a0<em>Dynamical modelling &amp; estimation in wastewater treatment processes<\/em>. IWA publishing. [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/-\/en\/D-Dochain\/dp\/B01GLE9TBO\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2YAK99DL9WP4Z&amp;keywords=Dynamical+modelling+%2526+estimation+in+wastewater+treatment+processes&amp;qid=1698492883&amp;sprefix=dynamical+modelling+%2526+estimation+in+wastewater+treatment+processes%252Caps%252C80&amp;sr=8-1&amp;_encoding=UTF8&amp;tag=petermbach-21&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;linkId=b6e9e515d5e009cbfa76eda01d2afcad&amp;camp=1638&amp;creative=6742\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/-\/en\/D-Dochain\/dp\/B01GLE9TBO\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2YAK99DL9WP4Z&amp;keywords=Dynamical+modelling+%2526+estimation+in+wastewater+treatment+processes&amp;qid=1698492883&amp;sprefix=dynamical+modelling+%2526+estimation+in+wastewater+treatment+processes%252Caps%252C80&amp;sr=8-1&amp;_encoding=UTF8&amp;tag=petermbach-21&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;linkId=b6e9e515d5e009cbfa76eda01d2afcad&amp;camp=1638&amp;creative=6742\">View on Amazon<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>My own paper where I adopted Peter\u2019s definition on validation and verification: Bach, P.M., Rauch, W., Mikkelsen, P.S., McCarthy, D.T. and Deletic, A., 2014. A critical review of integrated urban water modelling\u2013Urban drainage and beyond.&nbsp;<em>Environmental modelling &amp; software<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>54<\/em>, pp.88-107. [<a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1016\/j.envsoft.2013.12.018\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Control and Operation<\/strong> of wastewater treatment\/resource recovery process\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Vanrolleghem, P.A. and Vaneeckhaute, C., 2014. Resource recovery from wastewater and sludge: Modelling and control challenges. In&nbsp;<em>IWA specialist conference on global challenges: sustainable wastewater treatment and resource recovery<\/em>. International Water Association (IWA). [<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/modeleau.fsg.ulaval.ca\/fileadmin\/modeleau\/documents\/Publications\/pvr1166.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">modelEAU Link<\/a>] [<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/biblio.ugent.be\/publication\/5715330\" target=\"_blank\">Uni Ghent Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The 1995 conference paper: V<em>anrolleghem P.A. (1995) Model-based control of wastewater treatment plants. In:&nbsp;Proceedings ESF Workshop Integrated Environmental Bioprocess Design. Obernai, France, June 22-24 1995.<\/em> [<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/modeleau.fsg.ulaval.ca\/fileadmin\/modeleau\/documents\/Publications\/pvr105.ps\" target=\"_blank\">modelEAU Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>\u201cIf it ain\u2019t broke, don\u2019t fix it\u201d &#8211; Thomas Bertram Lance<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Traditional harddisks, control at millisecond scale [<a href=\"https:\/\/computer.howstuffworks.com\/hard-disk.htm?srch_tag=zlhqgr75lpjfxencnbvwtgpgbpdv5ugi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">More info<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Prof. em. Dr. <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/ethz.ch\/en\/the-eth-zurich\/organisation\/who-is-who\/retired-professors\/details.NzczNjM=.TGlzdC80MDEsMTk1NzY4MzcwOQ==.html\" target=\"_blank\">Willi Gujer\u2019s<\/a><\/strong> comparison of complexity of models that people were using vs. Moore\u2019s Law &#8211; reference to a seminar he gave in German, \u201cAbwasser, Spiegel der Gesellschaft\u201d [<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/video.ethz.ch\/speakers\/lecture\/8830145d-8587-442c-a423-9b4d938c2381.html\" target=\"_blank\">Link to Video<\/a> &#8211; ref @ 17:30]\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>More about Moore\u2019s Law [<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Moore%27s_law\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Wikipedia<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Digitalization and Digital Twins:<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Internet of Things (IoT) [<\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Internet_of_things\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Wikipedia<\/a>] [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.co.uk\/article\/internet-of-things-what-is-explained-iot\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">WIRED Article<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Water 4.0<\/strong> &#8211; used quite a bit in Germany, here\u2019s a report from the German Water Partnetship [<a href=\"https:\/\/germanwaterpartnership.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/GWP_Brochure_Water_4.0.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">PDF<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>The Terminator Movies<\/strong> [<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Terminator_(franchise)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">More Info<\/a>] &#8211; reference to \u201cSkynet\u201d and the scare of AI<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Definitions of a Digital Twin?<\/strong> &#8211; IBM has an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ibm.com\/topics\/what-is-a-digital-twin\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>interesting article<\/strong><\/a> on the subject<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Peter\u2019s Keynote on Digital Twins was held at Watermatex 2019 titled \u201cDigitalization of water &#8211; back to the future\u201d<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>\u201cIt\u2019s Hammer Time\u201d &#8211; Formula 1 Driver Lewis Hamilton [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.racefans.net\/2022\/11\/08\/hamilton-explains-how-he-came-up-with-his-signature-hammer-time-radio-call\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Data graveyards:<\/strong> Therrien paper on data pipelines\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Therrien, J.D., Nicola\u00ef, N. and Vanrolleghem, P.A., 2020. A critical review of the data pipeline: how wastewater system operation flows from data to intelligence.&nbsp;<em>Water Science and Technology<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>82<\/em>(12), pp.2613-2634. [<a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.2166\/wst.2020.393\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Open Access Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>What is metadata? Also check out the work from the <a href=\"https:\/\/iwa-network.org\/groups\/meta-data-collection-and-organization-metaco\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">MetaCO Task Group<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>\u201c<strong>Gustaf Olsson<\/strong> and me: mentorship at its best\u201d &#8211; Peter\u2019s message to Gustaf for his retirement [<a href=\"https:\/\/iwaponline.com\/ebooks\/book\/859\/chapter\/3031782\/Gustaf-Olsson-and-me-mentorship-at-its-best\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link<\/a>] and also a picture of the notable workshop Peter mentioned<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The <strong>Christchurch NZ earthquake<\/strong> and the opportunity I got to collaborate with researchers there years later in applying my work: Nguyen, T.T., Bach, P.M. and Pahlow, M., 2022. Multi-scale stormwater harvesting to enhance urban resilience to climate change impacts and natural disasters.&nbsp;<em>Blue-Green Systems<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>4<\/em>(1), pp.58-74. [<a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.2166\/bgs.2022.008\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Open Access Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The Panda and the Dragon reference &#8211; these refer to the books by James Norbury \u201cBig Panda and Tiny Dragon\u201d [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/-\/en\/James-Norbury\/dp\/0241529328\/ref=sr_1_2?crid=I6KT8XR5MDXK&amp;keywords=Big+Panda+and+Tiny+Dragon&amp;qid=1698492920&amp;sprefix=big+panda+and+tiny+dragon%252Caps%252C81&amp;sr=8-2&amp;_encoding=UTF8&amp;tag=petermbach-21&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;linkId=8b5419c45de296839e688bfc455fea00&amp;camp=1638&amp;creative=6742\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/-\/en\/James-Norbury\/dp\/0241529328\/ref=sr_1_2?crid=I6KT8XR5MDXK&amp;keywords=Big+Panda+and+Tiny+Dragon&amp;qid=1698492920&amp;sprefix=big+panda+and+tiny+dragon%252Caps%252C81&amp;sr=8-2&amp;_encoding=UTF8&amp;tag=petermbach-21&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;linkId=8b5419c45de296839e688bfc455fea00&amp;camp=1638&amp;creative=6742\">View on Amazon<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><em><strong>\u201cIf you wanna go fast, go alone, if you wanna get far, walk together\u201d<\/strong><\/em> &#8211; most likely an African Proverb although <strong><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/andrewwhitby.com\/2020\/12\/25\/if-you-want-to-go-fast\/\" target=\"_blank\">this article<\/a><\/strong> sheds some light on the origin of this statement<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Bonus: <\/strong>For those who might have notice and those who are not familiar, the episode title is a play on the famous novel &#8220;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Like-Water-Chocolate-Installments-Romances\/dp\/038542017X\/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3N83MSHM7TI35&amp;keywords=like+water+for+chocolate&amp;qid=1677503389&amp;sprefix=like+water+for+chocol%2Caps%2C256&amp;sr=8-2\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Like-Water-Chocolate-Installments-Romances\/dp\/038542017X\/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3N83MSHM7TI35&amp;keywords=like+water+for+chocolate&amp;qid=1677503389&amp;sprefix=like+water+for+chocol%2Caps%2C256&amp;sr=8-2\" target=\"_blank\">Like Water For Chocolate<\/a>&#8221; by Laura Esquivel, the saying itself represents the overflow of emotions, which I certainly felt during the recording and the editing of this episode. Peter&#8217;s stories were certainly too good of a fit to not use this title! Thank you Peter!<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Connect with Peter Vanrolleghem<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/petervanrolleghem\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>LinkedIn<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/modeleau.fsg.ulaval.ca\/en\/about\/home\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>modelEAU Homepage<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/scholar.google.com\/citations?user=poQrlhAAAAAJ&amp;hl=en&amp;oi=ao\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Google Scholar Profile<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/profile\/Peter-Vanrolleghem\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">ResearchGate<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Credits<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Hosted by Peter Marcus Bach, follow me on: <strong>X (formerly Twitter):<\/strong> @petermbach, <strong>Instagram:<\/strong> @petermbach87 or subscribe to my channel on <strong>YouTube:<\/strong> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/c\/PeterMarcusBach\/\">www.youtube.com\/c\/PeterMarcusBach\/<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Intro\/Outro Song:<\/strong> \u2018bucolia\u2019 by Birocratic (<a href=\"http:\/\/birocratic.lnk.to\/allYL\"><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/birocratic.lnk.to\/allYL\">http:\/\/birocratic.lnk.to\/allYL<\/a>) &#8211; check out more of his awesome music on his bandcamp page <a href=\"https:\/\/birocratic.bandcamp.com\/\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/birocratic.bandcamp.com\/\">https:\/\/birocratic.bandcamp.com\/<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Grand Challengers Podcast Episode #5 Like wastewater for chocolate &#8211; control, serendipity and digital twins Guest: Peter A. 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