{"id":840,"date":"2023-05-07T14:57:10","date_gmt":"2023-05-07T14:57:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/?page_id=840"},"modified":"2023-10-28T11:29:42","modified_gmt":"2023-10-28T11:29:42","slug":"011-anas-ghadouani","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/011-anas-ghadouani\/","title":{"rendered":"TGC Podcast Episode 011"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"padding-top:0;padding-right:0;padding-bottom:0;padding-left:0;flex-basis:280px\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" data-attachment-id=\"550\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/001-joao-paulo-leitao\/cover-art\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?fit=2560%2C2560&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2560,2560\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Cover-Art\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?fit=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?fit=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-550\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=1536%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=2048%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=465%2C465&amp;ssl=1 465w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Cover-Art-scaled.jpg?resize=500%2C500&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Grand Challengers Podcast Episode #11<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\">A limnologist, filmmaker, water diplomat and passionate teacher walk into a kitchen&#8230;<\/h1>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Guest: Anas Ghadouani<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>May 23rd, 2023<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Introduction<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-medium-font-size\"><em><strong>\u201c&#8230;I think research is about taking the risk together and sharing those risks and I think that&#8217;s really the secret<\/strong><\/em><strong>&#8230;\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:80%\">\n<p>Have you ever thought about what it is like to be a filmmaker, water and breakfast nerd all in one? Or what about using entertainment, fun and social media to tell a connected story about pressing world issues?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My guest today is Anas Ghadouani, professor in environmental engineering, from Aquatic Ecology and Ecosystem Studies at the University of Western Australia. Anas has over 20 years in research and teaching experience, from limnologist to a passionate and interdisciplinary storyteller around the sustainable development goals. He is also the co-host of his own podcast: Water You On About.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In today\u2019s show, we uncover how Anas\u2019 multiple passions have shaped his unique and entertaining teaching and communication style around the environment and the power of bringing fun into your work.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Anas-Ghadouani_Profilepic.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"871\" height=\"871\" data-attachment-id=\"841\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/011-anas-ghadouani\/anas-ghadouani_profilepic\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Anas-Ghadouani_Profilepic.jpg?fit=871%2C871&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"871,871\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.2&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS 5D Mark IV&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1509625513&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;50&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;800&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.00625&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Anas-Ghadouani_Profilepic\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Anas-Ghadouani_Profilepic.jpg?fit=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Anas-Ghadouani_Profilepic.jpg?fit=871%2C871&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Anas-Ghadouani_Profilepic.jpg?resize=871%2C871&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-841\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Anas-Ghadouani_Profilepic.jpg?w=871&amp;ssl=1 871w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Anas-Ghadouani_Profilepic.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Anas-Ghadouani_Profilepic.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Anas-Ghadouani_Profilepic.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Anas-Ghadouani_Profilepic.jpg?resize=465%2C465&amp;ssl=1 465w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Anas-Ghadouani_Profilepic.jpg?resize=500%2C500&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 871px) 100vw, 871px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div id='buzzsprout-small-player-limit-5-artist-anas-ghadouani'><\/div><script type='text\/javascript' charset='utf-8' src='https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/2083595.js?artist=Anas+Ghadouani&#038;container_id=buzzsprout-small-player-limit-5-artist-anas-ghadouani&#038;limit=5&#038;player=small'><\/script>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Biography<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Anas Ghadouani is a Professor in Environmental Engineering at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uwa.edu.au\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">University of Western Australia<\/a> where he leads a research group focussed on topics in water resources (water and wastewater), ecological and environmental engineering with an emphasis on developing innovative technologies. Anas grew up in Rabat, Morocco and completed his BSc at Mohamed V University before moving to Montreal Canada to obtain his MSc and, subsequently, PhD from the University of Montreal in 2002 in Limnology (the study of lakes) and Water Resources before moving to Australia.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Anas was appointed Programme Chair for Environmental Engineering in 2017 and has more than 20 years of research and teaching experience in the water area. He has led numerous large-scale multidisciplinary projects nationally and internationally and is an expert advisor to a number of organisations and agencies in Australia and internationally. He has also been an editor for the journal <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hydrology-and-earth-system-sciences.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Hydrology and Earth Systems Sciences (HESS)<\/a> since 2005 and a strong advocate for the <a href=\"https:\/\/sdgs.un.org\/goals\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">United Nations Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs)<\/a>, which he actively incorporates in his innovative teaching of undergraduate engineering.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Anas was a founding member and past Executive Director for the $120M <a href=\"https:\/\/watersensitivecities.org.au\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Cooperative Research Centre (CRC) for Water Sensitive Cities<\/a>, which ran from 2012 to 2021. This role included both scientific leadership in a large multidisciplinary research centre as well as the coordination of its activities within the University of Western Australia and management of relationships with Western Australian industry partners. He is also host of his own podcast \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/wateryouonabout.podbean.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Water You On About<\/a>\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<a data-flickr-embed=\"true\" href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/studiobaker\/5062409800\" title=\"have you hugged a limnologist today?\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/live.staticflickr.com\/4103\/5062409800_8255888962_c.jpg?resize=800%2C528&#038;ssl=1\" width=\"800\" height=\"528\" alt=\"have you hugged a limnologist today?\"\/><\/a><script async src=\"\/\/embedr.flickr.com\/assets\/client-code.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Resources Related to the Episode<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>(<em>Disclosure: Links on this page to &#8220;View on Amazon&#8221; are Affiliate links. This means that, at zero cost to you, I will earn an affiliate commission if you click through the link and finalize a purchase.<\/em>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.aslo.org\/what-is-aquatic-science\/what-is-limnology\/#:~:text=Limnology%20is%20the%20study%20of,drainage%20basins%20and%20the%20atmosphere\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">What is limnology?<\/a> \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The Association for the Sciences of Limnology and Oceanography\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aslo.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">official website<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The bumper sticker\u2026 \u201cHave you hugged a limnologist today?\u201d [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/studiobaker\/5062409800\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Flickr<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The Great Lakes of North America [<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Great_Lakes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Wikipedia<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Morocco:<\/strong> Anas comes from <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Rabat\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Rabat<\/a>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>More about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lonelyplanet.com\/morocco\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Morocco<\/a> and their <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Moroccan_cuisine\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">cuisine<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Anas mentions his mentor <strong>Deep Saini<\/strong>, who is the <a href=\"https:\/\/mcgillnews.mcgill.ca\/s\/1762\/news\/interior.aspx?sid=1762&amp;gid=2&amp;pgid=2506\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Principal of McGill University<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Cooperative Research Centre for Water Sensitive Cities (2012-2021)<\/strong>, a 10-year $120M research programme that both Anas and I were part of. Visit their <a href=\"https:\/\/watersensitivecities.org.au\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">website<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>What are <strong>cyanobacteria<\/strong>? [<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Cyanobacteria\" target=\"_blank\">Wikipedia<\/a>] [<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/topics\/agricultural-and-biological-sciences\/cyanobacteria\" target=\"_blank\">ScienceDirect<\/a>] also known as blue green algae\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Some of Anas\u2019 work on Cyanobacteria:\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Reichwaldt, E.S. and Ghadouani, A., 2012. Effects of rainfall patterns on toxic cyanobacterial blooms in a changing climate: between simplistic scenarios and complex dynamics.&nbsp;<em>Water research<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>46<\/em>(5), pp.1372-1393. [<a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1016\/j.watres.2011.11.052\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Ghadouani, A., Pinel\u2010Alloul, B. and Prepas, E.E., 2003. Effects of experimentally induced cyanobacterial blooms on crustacean zooplankton communities.&nbsp;<em>Freshwater Biology<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>48<\/em>(2), pp.363-381. [<a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1046\/j.1365-2427.2003.01010.x\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Anas speaks of the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Great_Oxidation_Event\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Great Oxidation Event<\/strong><\/a> with the largest release of oxygen by cyanobacteria<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>An article from the algal bloom just before the Beijing Olympics [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/2008\/jun\/30\/pollution.olympicgames2008\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Cyanobacteria like it hot:<\/strong> Paerl, H.W. and Huisman, J., 2008. Blooms like it hot.&nbsp;<em>Science<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>320<\/em>(5872), pp.57-58. [<a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1126\/science.1155398\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link<\/a>] &#8211; Anas did say Nature, but it was actually published in Science<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Anas\u2019 work on <strong>wastewater ponds with hydrogen peroxide:<\/strong> Barrington, D.J. and Ghadouani, A., 2008. Application of hydrogen peroxide for the removal of toxic cyanobacteria and other phytoplankton from wastewater.&nbsp;<em>Environmental science &amp; technology<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>42<\/em>(23), pp.8916-8921. [<a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1021\/es801717y\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>The Pleasure of finding out things<\/strong> by Richard Feynman [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/-\/en\/Richard-P-Feynman-ebook\/dp\/B06XBV7Y3T\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3R705XXFGNVX3&amp;keywords=The+Pleasure+of+finding+out+things&amp;qid=1698491851&amp;sprefix=the+pleasure+of+finding+out+things+%252Caps%252C82&amp;sr=8-1&amp;_encoding=UTF8&amp;tag=petermbach-21&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;linkId=121c815ce5cce57f317582af787ceb74&amp;camp=1638&amp;creative=6742\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/-\/en\/Richard-P-Feynman-ebook\/dp\/B06XBV7Y3T\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3R705XXFGNVX3&amp;keywords=The+Pleasure+of+finding+out+things&amp;qid=1698491851&amp;sprefix=the+pleasure+of+finding+out+things+%252Caps%252C82&amp;sr=8-1&amp;_encoding=UTF8&amp;tag=petermbach-21&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;linkId=121c815ce5cce57f317582af787ceb74&amp;camp=1638&amp;creative=6742\">View on Amazon<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>\u201cI apologise for the length of this letter. If I had more time it would have been shorter\u201d &#8211; Blaise Pascal &#8211; here\u2019s an interest post about this quote [<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/lettersrepublic.wordpress.com\/tag\/blaise-pascal\/\" target=\"_blank\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Walking together in research, cooking together, inspired by Danjoo Koorliny [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.danjookoorliny.com\/\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>The UN Sustainable Development Goals<\/strong>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/sdgs.un.org\/goals\" target=\"_blank\">Official page<\/a> from the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Anas\u2019 TEDx talk on Urban Water Diplomacy and the 17 ways to change the world [<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ted.com\/talks\/anas_ghadouani_water_diplomacy_and_the_new_wave_of_building_sustainable_communities\" target=\"_blank\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Anas&#8217; World Water Day Photo!<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2023-05-19-at-12.30.34.jpeg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" data-attachment-id=\"881\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/011-anas-ghadouani\/whatsapp-image-2023-05-19-at-12-30-34\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2023-05-19-at-12.30.34.jpeg?fit=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,576\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"WhatsApp-Image-2023-05-19-at-12.30.34\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2023-05-19-at-12.30.34.jpeg?fit=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2023-05-19-at-12.30.34.jpeg?fit=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2023-05-19-at-12.30.34.jpeg?resize=1024%2C576&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-881\" style=\"width:512px;height:288px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2023-05-19-at-12.30.34.jpeg?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2023-05-19-at-12.30.34.jpeg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2023-05-19-at-12.30.34.jpeg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2023-05-19-at-12.30.34.jpeg?resize=465%2C262&amp;ssl=1 465w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/petermbach.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2023-05-19-at-12.30.34.jpeg?resize=695%2C391&amp;ssl=1 695w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Indigenous Knowledge on Water<\/strong>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The AIATSIS Map of indigenous Australia provides some nice insight into the indigenous heritage of Australia [<a href=\"https:\/\/aiatsis.gov.au\/explore\/map-indigenous-australia\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Western Australia (WA) water supply:<\/strong> A misquote in the episode, the percentage of desalination water supply in WA was quoted to be at 80%. The actual number is around 35-50% [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.watercorporation.com.au\/Our-water\/Perths-water-supply\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">More Info<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Anas\u2019 podcast &#8211; \u201cWater You On About\u201d,<\/strong> which he hosts with Liah Coggins (who will be on Episode 12, stay tuned) &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/wateryouonabout.podbean.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link on Podbean<\/a>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>We can both recommend the episode on &#8220;Fish, Vodka and the Titanic&#8221; (Episode 3)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>To learn more about Limnologists do, check out &#8220;Why Limnologists have chips on their shoulders&#8221; (Episode 2)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Anas\u2019 TEDx Talk \u201cHow to eat yourself out of a water shortage\u201d<\/strong> on the urban water footprint and chocolate [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ted.com\/talks\/anas_ghadouani_how_to_eat_yourself_out_of_a_water_shortage\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.ted.com\/talks\/anas_ghadouani_how_to_eat_yourself_out_of_a_water_shortage\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link<\/a>]\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>We make reference to \u2018Chocolate\u2019 in Episode 5, check out how our guest from <strong>Episode 5, Peter A. Vanrolleghem<\/strong> relates to chocolate [<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/005-peter-vanrolleghem\/\" target=\"_blank\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>We make reference to our guest from <strong>Episode 9, Ana Deletic<\/strong> &#8211; check out Ana\u2019s episode [<a href=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/009-ana-deletic\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link<\/a>] for her journey &#8211; I hope to get both of them in the same kitchen soon! Not for research but for some great literal cooking!<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Le 4 o\u2019clock<\/strong> &#8211; Le quatre-heures &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thelocal.fr\/20190826\/french-expression-of-the-day-un-quatre-heures\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">read more<\/a> about it and if you get a chance, try a <em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pain_au_chocolat\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">pain au chocolat<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Leaving the Lecturn<\/strong> by Dean A. McManus [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/-\/en\/Dean-McManus\/dp\/1882982851\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3UHO3L0Q3LVPG&amp;keywords=Leaving+the+Lecturn+dean+a+mcmanus&amp;qid=1698491890&amp;sprefix=leaving+the+lecturn+dean+a+mcmanu%252Caps%252C77&amp;sr=8-1&amp;_encoding=UTF8&amp;tag=petermbach-21&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;linkId=440b37214f3ce8d070fe3060e93633f1&amp;camp=1638&amp;creative=6742\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/-\/en\/Dean-McManus\/dp\/1882982851\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3UHO3L0Q3LVPG&amp;keywords=Leaving+the+Lecturn+dean+a+mcmanus&amp;qid=1698491890&amp;sprefix=leaving+the+lecturn+dean+a+mcmanu%252Caps%252C77&amp;sr=8-1&amp;_encoding=UTF8&amp;tag=petermbach-21&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;linkId=440b37214f3ce8d070fe3060e93633f1&amp;camp=1638&amp;creative=6742\">View on Amazon<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The best way to learn is to teach someone &#8211; <strong>The Feynman technique<\/strong> [<a href=\"https:\/\/fs.blog\/feynman-technique\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/openai.com\/blog\/chatgpt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">ChatGPT<\/a>:<\/strong> in case you have been living under a rock, here\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/ChatGPT\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">some background<\/a>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Another reference to the latter half of <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/005-peter-vanrolleghem\/\" data-type=\"page\" data-id=\"688\" target=\"_blank\">Episode 5 with Peter A. Vanrolleghem<\/a> on artificial intelligence<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The poem that ChatGPT wrote for Liah&#8217;s Birthday (Liah is the guest of Episode 12)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote has-text-align-center is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Happy birthday to Liah,<br>A true engineer at heart,<br>She works on wastewater with ease,<br>And travels the world like a work of art.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She\u2019s sweet like the cake she bakes,<br>Banana bread like no other can make,<br>And when she gets behind the wheel,<br>She drives like a Formula One champion for real.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We love her short fuse and her fire,<br>It\u2019s part of what makes her so inspiring,<br>And on this special day we\u2019re grateful,<br>To know her and celebrate her with great admiration<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So here\u2019s to Liah, on her special day,<br>May it be filled with love, laughter, and cake,<br>May all her dreams come true,<br>And may she always know how much we love her too.<\/p>\n<cite>&#8211; ChatGPT and Anas Ghadouani<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>More background on what <strong>Ramadan<\/strong> is all about [<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ramadan\" target=\"_blank\">Wikipedia<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>We continue the discussion of the \u201cTrail of Kebab\u201d from Episode 6, check out <strong>Episode 6<\/strong> for some interesting discussions on cultural continuity and food with <strong>Arya Arabshahi<\/strong> [<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/006-arya-arabshahi\/\" target=\"_blank\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Anas finished with <strong>Support a Voice to parliament<\/strong>, a monumental vote taking place in Australia [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.reconciliation.org.au\/reconciliation\/support-a-voice-to-parliament\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">More Info<\/a>]\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>More about the referendum [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2023-05-15\/what-is-the-indigenous-voice-to-parliament-referendum-australia\/102317242\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The Uluru Statement [<a href=\"https:\/\/ulurustatement.org\/the-statement\/view-the-statement\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Link<\/a>]<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Connect with Anas Ghadouani<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/research-repository.uwa.edu.au\/en\/persons\/anas-ghadouani\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">UWA Profile Page<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/scholar.google.com.au\/citations?user=HEwNEwQAAAAJ&amp;hl=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Google Scholar<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/anasghadouani?lang=en\" target=\"_blank\">X (fomerly Twi<\/a><\/strong><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/anasghadouani?lang=en\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>tter)<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/anas.ghadouani\/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Instagram<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/anas-ghadouani-90639095\/?originalSubdomain=au\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>LinkedIn<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-wide\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Credits<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Hosted by Peter Marcus Bach, follow me on: <strong>X (fomerly Twitter):<\/strong> @petermbach, <strong>Instagram:<\/strong> @petermbach87 or subscribe to my channel on <strong>YouTube:<\/strong> <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/c\/PeterMarcusBach\/\" target=\"_blank\">www.youtube.com\/c\/PeterMarcusBach\/<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Intro\/Outro Song:<\/strong> \u2018Breaking Sweat\u2019 by Balloon Planet (Check out more of their tunes over at Soundcloud:&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/balloon-planet\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/balloon-planet<\/a>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Grand Challengers Podcast Episode #11 A limnologist, filmmaker, water diplomat and passionate teacher walk into a kitchen&#8230; Guest: Anas Ghadouani May 23rd, 2023 Introduction \u201c&#8230;I think research is about taking the risk together and sharing those risks and I think that&#8217;s really the secret&#8230;\u201d Have you ever thought about<span class=\"more-link\"><a href=\"https:\/\/petermbach.com\/index.php\/podcast\/011-anas-ghadouani\/\">Continue 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