The Grand Challengers Podcast Episode #23
To give ‘space’ – from a library to collaborative urban transformation and rethinking the architect’s role
Guest: Markus Vogl
February 6th, 2024
Episode Teaser
Introduction
“…it’s amazing how you see that out of the social interaction, a social production of space becomes city…”
Markus Vogl, Professor in urban planning and design at the University of Stuttgart , senior partner at Studio Urban Strategies in Germany and the former “Walter Gropius Chair” at the Faculty of Architecture, Design and Urbanism at the University of Buenos Aires, Argentina. Markus completed his studies in architecture at TU Munich in 2002 before continuing his studies at the University of Vienna up til 2009. He has amassed an incredible portfolio of diverse architectural projects centered around the curiosities of designing places of encounter and social collaboration.
On today’s show, Markus reflects on the incredible story of what is perhaps his most impactful and life-changing project to date, the Biblioteca La Carcova and Parque Educativo in San Martin, Argentina. We discuss this project’s early beginnings from an unconventional change agent to his involvement in driving a social collaboration towards urban transformation. We also spark deeper thought around architecture’s role for future sustainability and what it means to give space.
Biography
Markus Vogl, registered architect and urban planner is a senior partner in Studio Urbane Strategien (Studio Urban Strategies – since 2020) in Stuttgart, Germany, interim Professor in the chair of planning and design (Städtebau) at Stuttgart University and the former “Walter Gropius Chair” (from 2017 to 2022) at the Faculty of Architecture, Design and Urbanism at the University of Buenos Aires, Argentina, supported by the German Academic Exchange Services (DAAD). He studied architecture at the Technical University (TU) Munich from 1995 to 2002, which included an Erasmus at the TU Delft and a trip to Buenos Aires from May to September 2001.
Following ten years of freelance work at the renowned Vienna-based architectural firm querkraft, he worked independently as a partner at the UTA Architects and Urban Planners office from 2014 to 2019. He has taught at internationally acclaimed institutions such as TU Delft, the Academy of Fine Arts Vienna, the University of Vienna, the University of Innsbruck, and the University of Stuttgart. He is a recognized expert in urban development processes in South America. His project, “Parque Educativo – La Carcova” in Buenos Aires, earned the teaching team and the team of the library the prestigious Latin American XII BIAU award for educational projects. He is also member of the German Association of Architects, Europan, International Forum of urbanism, American Association of Geographers and the International Planning History society. Other than his work in Latin America, he is also engaging in project across Germany and Europe on creating places of encounter to improve social cohesion, stewardship and to create social interaction opportunities in order to transform urban spaces into vibrant cities.
Resources Related to the Episode
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- About Buenos Aires, Argentina [TripAdvisor] [LonelyPlanet]
- About Porteño [Wikipedia]
- The massive boulevard I refer to is the Avenida 9 de Julio and the famous Obelisco de Buenos Aires is at the intersection of this boulevard and the Avenida Corrientes
- Clubes de Barrio [BA Homepage – Spanish]
- A very interesting article about the Cartonero in Buenos Aires
- Learn more about Tango
- Milonga is considered the precursor of Tango [Wikipedia]
- Electro Tango by Gotan Project – I enjoy listening to their albums! [Spotify] [YouTube]
- My favourite album is “La Revancha del Tango”, I personally own the vinyl of this album [View on Amazon]
- History of Tango [DanceFacts] [Wikipedia]
- Markus’ Football Clubs
- The “Lions of Munich” TSV1860 football team [Official Page]
- Racing Avellaneda Football club in BA
- The book mentioned by Markus by Doug Saunders, “Arrival City” Vintage 2012 [View on Amazon]
- The reference I made to the architect vs. engineering pursuit was in Episode 2 with Scott Lloyd, do check it out
- The concept of “Städtebau” or citymaking
- We also talk about citymaking in Episode 6 with Arya Arabshahi, you can check out our discussions there on how we should approach it
- A few famous architects and studios mentioned by Markus: Carsten Lorenzen, former partner of Vandkunsten, Rem Koolhaas, MVRDV
- Homo Ludens, Homo Faber, New Babylon
- Johan Huizinga. “Homo Ludens – A study on the play-element in culture”. 2016 [View on Amazon]
- Details on the project in El Salvador – Globalization, urban form and governance over at the TU Delft repository
- Walter Gropius: Founder of the Bauhaus School
- The Bauhaus Movement
- The German Academic Exchange Service (DAAD) [Official Site]
- The Walter Gropius Chair from the DAAD [More Info] [Instagram @catedragropius]
- Follow the
- STO Foundation [Official Site]
- Key Links about the Biblioteca Popular La Carcova Project
- THe official Facebook Page and their Instagram (@bibliotecapopularlacarcova)
- The UNSAM University and the Institute of Architecture and Urbanism
- An article about Waldemar Cubilla (in Spanish)
- Gauchito Gil, the Argentinian “Robin Hood”
- Some pictures of the roof construction from arch daily, a Colombian architecture blog (in Spanish)
- Some of the key people that Markus mentions:
- Gisela Perez (here a video during the journey bidding for funding)
- Waldemar Cubilla (“Waldemar y los libros” on Vimeo)
- Gustavo Dieguez (a77 Official Page and on Instagram @tallera77_fadu_uba)
- Lucas Gilardi (Instagram @lucasgilardidahl)
- Roberto Busnelli
- Some impressions from the project (photos courtesy of Markus Vogl) – click the arrows to scroll through the images
- Herman Hertzberger: an inspiration to Markus [biography DE]
- Herman Hertzberger, “Lessons for students in architecture”. NAI Publishers 2017 [View on Amazon]
- The Brundlandt Report, 20 Years On
Episode Chapters
(Chapters are embedded in the episode for quick access, click this to expand and view all chapters and time stamps)
- 0:00 Intro
- 1:59 Guest introduction and AM radio signals
- 3:36 Buenos Aires, stereotypes and Tango
- 8:20 The Clubes de Barrio
- 11:54 Early interest in Architecture and Urbanism
- 15:27 “Städtebau” or citymaking as interdisciplinarity
- 21:00 From TU Munich to TU Delft
- 24:11 Getting to Buenos Aires
- 28:07 Society, globalization and confronting reality
- 34:13 Biblioteca La Carcova: Prologue: The Walter Gropius Chair
- 39: 49 Biblioteca La Carcova: Part 1 – The Canvas
- 42:23 Biblioteca La Carcova: Part 2 – A book means freedom
- 45:14 Biblioteca La Carcova: Part 3 – Building a place of encounter
- 47:11 Biblioteca La Carcova: Part 4 – Gauchito Gil
- 49:00 Biblioteca La Carcova: Part 5 – Enter Markus
- 51:18 Biblioteca La Carcova: Part 6 – Parque Educativo
- 53:17 Biblioteca La Carcova: Part 7 – 3000 Euros and the Pandemic
- 56:38 Biblioteca La Carcova: Part 8 – The Obelisco
- 1:01:30 The role of the architect
- 1:02:41 The next steps for the Parque Educativo
- 1:07:05 Q&A Start
- 1:07:33 What inspires you?
- 1:08:28 Key event, person, book
- 1:10:24 If you had a magic wand?
- 1:12:18 Biggest challenge in career to date
- 1:17:30 Time management
- 1:19:22 Advice for young architects
- 1:20:42 Where can people reach you?
- 1:21:50 Final Message
- 1:22:31 Outro
Connect with Markus Vogl
- Instagram (@studiourbanstrategies)
- Studio Urban Strategies Website
- University of Stuttgart Profile Page
Related Episodes
Episode #2 – Scott Lloyd Cohabitation and close encounters with myths in urban design (Related Topics: architecture; urban design; collective design) | |
Episode #6 – Arya Arabshahi Citymaking in times of crises, from yoghurt shops to plans of resistance (Related Topics: architecture; citymaking; planning; territorial design) | |
Episode #15 – Juan Pablo Rodríguez Sánchez “Restrictions and constraints breed innovation” – sewers and nature-based solutions in Colombia (Related Topics: global south; Latin America; resource constraints) | |
Episode #11 – Anas Ghadouani A limnologist, filmmaker, foodie, water diplomat, and passionate teacher walk into a kitchen… (Related Topics: education; social engagement) |
Credits
- Hosted by Peter Marcus Bach, follow me on: X: @petermbach, Instagram: @petermbach87 or subscribe to my channel on YouTube:www.youtube.com/c/PeterMarcusBach/
- Intro/Outro Song: ‘Starsky’ by Alex Keren (Check out more of his tunes over on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/5vZ3lENfDLjkln8scBJ8mW)