The Grand Challengers Podcast Episode #38

The human side of planning and flood risk in London – the challenge of embedding history into policy

Guest: Patricia Cuervo Uría

January 28th, 2025


Episode Teaser

Introduction

“…there are limits to what planning can do and we need to follow the rules…”

Patri Cuervo is a Regional Delivery Manager at Binnies in the UK. Patri is a chartered planner and a fellow member of the Chartered Institution of Water and Environmental Management (or CIWEM for short). She has over 18 years of experience in delivering local government services in central London and has extensively worked in flood risk and drainage policy development and implementation. Her journey to date comprises many hats that she has worn in practice, from local government to consulting and a diverse portfolio of water projects, where she has actively embraced stakeholder engagement in shaping policy and emergency situations.

On today’s show, Patri and I look into London’s history with water and flood risk and retrace the planning policies and projects she has worked on across her career to date, highlighting the invaluable contribution of openness and transparency with stakeholders. We discuss the potential and limits of planning and the urgency for better mental health support in the face of climate change.

Biography

Patricia Cuervo Uría is a Regional Delivery Manager at Binnies with over 21 years of experience in flood risk and drainage policy development, urban planning, and infrastructure management. She has managed key projects, including the Thames Tideway Tunnel and the Counters Creek storm alleviation scheme. Patricia’s academic background includes a BSc in Biology from the University of Oviedo, an MSc in Geography from King’s College London, and an MSc in Planning from Oxford Brookes University. She is a Chartered Member of the Royal Town Planning Institute and a Fellow of the Chartered Institute of Water and Environmental Management.

Before joining Binnies, Patricia spent 18 years at the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea, where she specialized in planning policy and flood risk management. She played a central role in establishing the borough’s Lead Local Flood Authority responsibilities and led projects such as the development of sustainable drainage systems, the local flood risk management strategy, and responses to significant infrastructure projects. Her work included engaging with residents, businesses, and stakeholders to address public concerns and support policy implementation. Patricia also co-chaired the London Drainage Engineers Group, contributing to regional policy coordination and the advancement of best practices in water management.

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Episode Chapters

(Chapters are embedded in the episode for quick access, click this to expand and view all chapters and time stamps)
  • 0:00 Intro
  • 1:59 Guest Intro and a London Walk
  • 5:07 From Biology to Planning
  • 13:37 London’s Water in Context
  • 15:46 Flooding and Flood Risk in London
  • 23:26 The Thames Tideway Tunnels
  • 29:46 Stakeholder Involvement in Planning
  • 36:30 From city council to consulting – a change of hats
  • 39:37 What about SuDS?
  • 47:48 Empowerment from the Grenfell Tower Fire
  • 56:15 Mental health and climate change
  • 1:00:09 Patri’s current endeavours
  • 1:04:06 Q&A Start
  • 1:04:54 What is innovation?
  • 1:06:32 Key Event, Book person
  • 1:09:22 If you had a magic wand?
  • 1:10:50 Time management
  • 1:12:44 Favourite childhood memory
  • 1:14:43 Advice for young professionals
  • 1:16:48 What would you like to be remembered for?
  • 1:19:21 Where can people reach you?
  • 1:20:05 Final Message
  • 1:20:39 Outro

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